{"id":4085,"date":"2019-10-15T16:33:39","date_gmt":"2019-10-15T20:33:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/new.alumnae.mtholyoke.edu\/1961\/?p=4085"},"modified":"2019-10-15T16:43:05","modified_gmt":"2019-10-15T20:43:05","slug":"discussing-trumps-actions-october-2019","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.alumnae.mtholyoke.edu\/1961\/discussing-trumps-actions-october-2019\/","title":{"rendered":"Discussing Trump’s Actions – October 2019"},"content":{"rendered":"

There’s been lots of discussion these past few days (10\/12-15)about what Trump is doing, and I’m attempting to include it here for those of you who haven’t been part of the chat group.  It’s difficult to copy conversations, but bear with me and give it a try if you, too, are interested.  Liz Webfoot<\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n
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October 12, 2019<\/p>\n

Dear college sisters, please pass this by if the subject matter bothers you. But I need to speak my truth.<\/p>\n

Where are the intelligent, courageous, well spoken men speaking truth to power? Marie  and Fiona make me proud.<\/p>\n

I didn\u2019t know it was possible, but I am feeling a new level of shame over Kurds and Syria and Russia (let\u2019s not forget Russia).<\/p>\n

Friend suggests \u201cMalignant Narcissist\u201d to describe the president. I\u2019ve become particularly angry when I see the way his self focused actions cause harm, pain, even death to innocents who have done nothing to him.<\/p>\n

Dottie Smith Mann
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I couldn\u2019t agree more.   I was just saying to Dick that one huge problem that we face with Trump is that he has absolutely zero empathy or compassion.  With the Kurds, as well as the refugees on our southern border, he gives orders that will annihilate them, and he could not care less.    If they are not white, American men that will vote for him, they are worth nothing.  That\u2019s why he is bringing the troops back, and why he will not allow foreigners who are all \u201cmostly bad\u201d people to seek shelter in our country.   I am truly ashamed of my country and the supposedly Christian voters who are amazingly still behind him.   <\/p>\n

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You all speak for me!  <\/p>\n

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Me too!<\/p>\n

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MHC61 <\/strong><mhc61@mhc61.talklist.com><\/td>\nMon, Oct 14, <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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Hi I agree but what is your name?
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I agree with everyone. So ashamed for and depressed about our country.
\nJust arrived in FL. No time for more comment. Must unpack and be ready for company this weekend.
\nBarbara Hartt Hise
\nPS. Just must add that my lifetime Republican husband is now a registered Democrat. Sent from my iPhone<\/p>\n

> On Oct 14, 2019, at 2:13 PM, MHC61 <mhc61@mhc61.talklist.com<\/a>> wrote:
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HI Barbara – may there be many more like your husband!<\/p>\n

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MHC61 <\/strong><mhc61@mhc61.talklist.com><\/td>\nMon, Oct 14, 2019 at 3:28 PM<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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Wholeheartedly agree!<\/p>\n

Barbara<\/p>\n

Barbara K. Bucholtz
\n<\/em>Professor of Law<\/p>\n

The University of Tulsa, College of Law
\n3120 E. 4th Place<\/a>  Tulsa, OK<\/a>  74104<\/a>
\n(918) 631-3193 ~ fax (918) 631-2194<\/p>\n

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Betsy (Karch Wilson)  —<\/p>\n

As you well know, I’m no Trump fan, but my guess is that the so-called great negotiator\/dealmaker got snookered by Erdogan, in that E probably phoned up and said, “look we’re going in on Thursday;  either you get your boys out of there right now, or we’re going to kill all of them when we arrive.   And Trump being Trump just couldn’t let that happen all in one day on his watch, as it would define him forever.  In his mind, it was the only option to save his own skin for the short term because of course he has no military strategy or foreign policies or diplomatic channels or patience to fall back on in crises such as this.  And, he’s such an egotist, he always figures that he’ll be able to talk his way out of any decision, good or bad, because the Republicans will back him no matter what.<\/p>\n

Judy K
\n(Judy Marshall Kennedy)<\/p>\n

PS  Have you been watching Susan Rice on TV these past few weeks as she promotes her new book but is happy to entertain questions about the current news cycles when she does?   I’m impressed.  Keep an eye on her . . .<\/p>\n

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\nFrom: MHC61 [mailto:mhc61@mhc61.talklist.com<\/a>]\nSent: Monday, October 14, 2019 1:47 PM
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MHC61 <\/strong><mhc61@mhc61.talklist.com><\/td>\nMon, Oct 14, 2019 at 4:08 PM<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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That was Betsy Karch  Wilson. Dottie<\/p>\n

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I agree with everyone.  I am also particularly disgusted by Christian voters who are still Trump fans.  How on earth could that be?  There is nothing at all Christian-like about the man.  Never have I been so disheartened and sad for our country.   I’d like to post this on the website, but it’s a lot easier for people to speak out here.  <\/p>\n

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It’s okay with me if you post my comment on the website.  I think our website will outlast all of us, and hopefully MHC students 50 years from now will look back and see what we really thought.<\/p>\n

Judy<\/p>\n

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